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Alan Ponder

USA
315 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2017 :  19:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tried to post pics. Says I have to update Photobucket. Any ideas?

Edited by - Alan Ponder on 12/05/2017 19:37:34

Rambler

USA
388 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2017 :  19:42:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alan, Photobucket doesn't work anymore unless you are prepared to pay $400/year. Time to find a different photo posting service such as http://flickr.com/

http://www.thewheelmen.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9010&SearchTerms=photobucket

Edited by - Rambler on 12/05/2017 19:43:12
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John Skocdopole

USA
141 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2017 :  19:37:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm happy using Imgur.
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Mike Cates

USA
1811 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2017 :  18:23:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know this is going to sound repetitive but WHY do we have to resort to ebay? I'm tired of having to use ebay purely for the sake of ease of posting pictures there. You get all kinds of inquiries from know-it-alls and super low-ballers. Not to mention the fees ebay/Paypal charges, almost as bad as an auction house. I would much rather talk directly with members of the club about a bicycle I have for sale. At least Wheelmen members know about antique bicycles. Since The Wheelmen went online, I have always thought the For Sale/Wanted column was to be a modern extension of what is printed in the Newsletter but with the advantage of the ability to post pictures easily. Well it is NOT and WHY our site isn't as easy to post pictures on as on just about every other site out there, I'm amazed/saddened that in this day and age we aren't up to date. Without the ease of posting pictures for the average computer user (myself included), a lot of rare and interesting things are not being seen.
Mike Cates, CA.

Edited by - Mike Cates on 12/07/2017 20:12:29
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Giovanni LiCalsi

USA
512 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2017 :  21:19:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Cates

I know this is going to sound repetitive but WHY do we have to resort to ebay? I'm tired of having to use ebay purely for the sake of ease of posting pictures there. You get all kinds of inquiries from know-it-alls and super low-ballers. Not to mention the fees ebay/Paypal charges, almost as bad as an auction house. I would much rather talk directly with members of the club about a bicycle I have for sale. At least Wheelmen members know about antique bicycles. Since The Wheelmen went online, I have always thought the For Sale/Wanted column was to be a modern extension of what is printed in the Newsletter but with the advantage of the ability to post pictures easily. Well it is NOT and WHY our site isn't as easy to post pictures on as on just about every other site out there, I'm amazed/saddened that in this day and age we aren't up to date. Without the ease of posting pictures for the average computer user (myself included), a lot of rare and interesting things are not being seen.
Mike Cates, CA.


I agree!

Kind regards,
Giovanni
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Dick Rath

USA
239 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2017 :  15:15:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For a long time now Mike Cates and I, along with many other members, have voiced our dismay, disappointment, and concern that nothing has been done to make our picture posting process simple, uncomplicated, and easy.

When so many of the sites that I use on a daily basis for much of my activity on the internet have such uncomplicated procedures for posting pictures I have to wonder what on earth is going on with The Wheelmen's administration? I am fully aware that those members involved in the management of our website are unpaid and doing their associated work on their own time and that their work saves the our association the cost of paying a professional management company.

Perhaps our association has come of age and reached the point in our development where we must now turn to professionals to bring our website up to date and simplify the important aspects of it's features. The website administrators might investigate what the costs might be for specific updates, done by a professional, and present them to the general membership to get an idea about their enthusiasm for paying for the updates that are so sorely needed.

The value to the membership at large of being able to post clear pictures to explain questions, to date specific bicycles and components, to clarify or simplify details about conserving a special bike, to allow those more technically proficient to present ideas and methodology to the benefit of those new to the concept of restoring and maintaining the old machines that we love, and more
obviously, to bring buyers and sellers together to show showing explicitly what they want to sell and what they are seeking to buy, would be enormous.

We've heard much about the problems associated with updating, improving, upgrading , and making changes to an existing website, but I believe the view of much of our membership is that we cannot put this off any longer.



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Kurt S.

USA
257 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2017 :  17:54:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I’d love to hear from those that are working on the issue. I know someone has been looking into this for some time.

I’m no computer geek & I can still type as fast as I did 30 years ago with only two fingers. Ironically same speed as I was on a manual typewriter, but I love spellcheck, for what it’s worth.

My son has a computer engineering degree and I usually reserve my thoughts on this subject with conversations with him. I am, as they say a dinosaur.

I suspect someone has the program for this forum running on a computer somewhere & hooking up additional computer servers might just be out of the budget and cloud space is not getting cheaper.

But if I wanted to post a lot of photos, to multiple sites, I wouldn’t depend on just one forum’s program. I definitely wouldn’t depend on those free photobucket type sites either it’s only asking for trouble long term. I would look at getting a “NAS” type server. They are cheap and usually are safe to hook up to my own router and left on would store all my linked photos etc. I could share them, permanently linked with as many forums or sites as I wanted.

For example, a new personal NAS server like “My Cloud” with 2 TB of storage, it is a relatively compact unit that could sit next to my computer under my desk, for about $140.00 with shipping.

Now if I’m selling stuff on a continuous base, on more than one forum, I think it would have been on my X-mas list for sure.

Kurt J. Schaak
kurtschaak@yahoo.com
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Joseph Martin

USA
2069 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2017 :  19:22:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kurt I learn more from others than I learned in school. You have just taught me some good stuff that I ran past my own son, asking him if he can explain NAS servers to me. He said, yes, there is a lot of stuff/videos on youtube about them. I laughed and said you had first called yourself a dinosaur then proceeded to talk about something about which I am unfamiliar being that I rely on those 'free' hosting services. In researching the NSA concept I notice the RAID levels they use, this is serious stuff requiring redundancy etc. otherwise you run the risk of losing all your photos, the risk is the same as it would be on a 'host' server. In my most recent contract I was responsible for daily system backup and restore, I used a solid reliable tape backup system which has since been replaced with redundant SSD. No matter the system and technology, it is possible to 'get it done' but there is always a risk and a cost. Just more food for thought.
Tony
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Kurt S.

USA
257 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2017 :  19:52:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gotta love U-tube.

Here is a link to a 3 minute explanation of how a NAS works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k13sQxybqiA

Kurt J. Schaak
kurtschaak@yahoo.com
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Russell Mamone

3 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2017 :  09:20:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it time to upgrade the website to allow posting of videos and pictures? The cost to hire specialists to do this would cost, from my experience, about $1000 and require reviews of several hundred dollars in the future. Could this be financed by creating a new participation fee of $10 per year for those who do not want to be members at $30, but want to engage on subjects of interest?
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Joseph Martin

USA
2069 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2017 :  10:08:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Russell, I like your suggestion, only one problem, it takes time to bring this to a vote. You've taken the first step by starting the conversation.
Tony
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Craig Allen

1088 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2017 :  13:12:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the idea as well as I'm sure there are many other ideas that would work, but this conversation has been going on for a number of years now. What we need is action and less foot dragging.
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m-bike

USA
27 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2017 :  13:43:08  Show Profile  Visit m-bike's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Why not just switch to Google Groups or Facebook? Or, move the entire site to Wordpress and use a bulletin board plugin.
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Alan Ponder

USA
315 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2017 :  15:45:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's actually kind of funny. It took me 6 months to finally figure out how to do it. Six months- a year later it doesn't work anymore. I've already given up on it. I have to believe if it hasn't been fixed by now, it most likely never will be. Not to say I don't still enjoy being a member. I do. The Wheelmen have a strong presence on Facebook through Wheelmen, CT Wheelmen, and most, if not all other organized states have active Facebook pages too. Other country's are there too. League of Ordinary Riders, etc. I think most of us see most everyone they know on one of those pages, it may not make sense to put any money into this one. Just too little, too late....

Edited by - Alan Ponder on 12/29/2017 15:47:42
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Alan Ponder

USA
315 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2017 :  15:48:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's actually kind of funny. It took me 6 months to finally figure out how to do it. Six months- a year later it doesn't work anymore. I've already given up on it. I have to believe if it hasn't been fixed by now, it most likely never will be. Not to say I don't still enjoy being a member. I do. The Wheelmen have a strong presence on Facebook through Wheelmen, CT Wheelmen, and most, if not all other organized states have active Facebook pages too. Other country's are there too. League of Ordinary Riders, etc. Since I see most everyone I know on one of those pages, it may not make sense to put any money into this one. Just too little, too late....
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Dick Rath

USA
239 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2017 :  18:31:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While I completely agree with Alan's comments I am truly saddened by the thought that his conclusion that " it may not make sense to put any money into this one" and that it is "Just too little too late" may be absolutely correct. It simply makes no sense that with such a computer savvy membership we cannot come up with a cost effective solution to this problem; and I assure the membership in it's entirety that this is really a serious problem. Members I speak to regularly are seriously considering dropping their membership believing the club itself has become a dinosaur, has outlived it's usefulness, and seems powerless to keep up with the needs and expectations of it's founders.

I recognize that there is no magic wand to be waved to correct this most immediate and pressing problem but surely the administration can meet with a professional organization, explain the need, request a proposal and estimate of it's cost, put it out to the members in the form of a letter of explanation, a breakdown of it's cost, and the inclusion of a ballot to vote yes, or no, as to whether a majority of the membership accepts it. Whether it be a hike in our annual dues or a one time assessment would be voted for on the same ballot.

To let this go much further with no resolution will assure that we'll soon be following the Dinosaurs down their well worn path.

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